Talk:College football national championships in NCAA Division I FBS
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Consistency with article format
[edit]Suggestion: the format of the BCS and Playoff eras should be in the same format as the Historic Occurrences, Bowl Coalition, and Bowl Alliance formats follow, so that the page maintains a consistent look and feel, rather than just a summary of titles won in the BCS and Playoff eras. The summaries could still exist as well, but why post the specific results for some formats but not all? Also, perhaps the summaries of titles won under each era could perhaps be condensed into one box that consolidates all of this information. A column each of titles won in the Bowl Coalition/Alliance, a column for BCS, and a column for Playoff era. Perhaps a first column for titles won pre-1992, although maybe not because it's much messier when attempting consistency. Again, all of these are just suggestions in good faith to improve the article - thanks! Gillicando (talk) 17:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think listing the BCS and CFP annual title games in the same format as the Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance ones is potentially a good idea; the problem being of course that the CFP table will be an ever-growing list that perhaps has a better dedicated home in another article such as College Football Playoff National Championship#Game results or List of College Football Playoff national champions. Please feel free to make WP:BOLD changes or test them out here on the talk page. PK-WIKI (talk) 21:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Oregon 2024 selection
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2025
2024 championship should only show Ohio State. For some reason Oregon is listed they were eliminated 20 days ago by Ohio State. 66.42.145.18 (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ––kemel49(connect)(contri) 17:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Oregon was selected by Peter R. Wolfe, an NCAA-designated "major selector" of national championships, which are what is listed in that table.
- Wolfe (1992-present), a mathematically based power rating matrix developed by Peter Wolfe and Ross Baker.
- https://wolferatings.com/ratings.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20250121185959/https://wolferatings.com/ratings.htm
- Oregon 9.598
- Ohio State 9.330 Tournament champ
- Notre Dame 8.655
Michigan 2023 Wolfe Championship
[edit]Why isn't Michigan recognized as having the Wolfe designation for the national championship? If you go on Wolfe's website description page (https://wolferatings.com/descrip.htm) and scroll almost all the way down, you'll see that Michigan is ranked #1 in the post-bowl rankings. BearDown12684 (talk) 19:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- His old UCLA ratings website was never updated post-bowl, so we never added the post-bowl results:
- His new website only came online in November 2024 to post the new 2024 ratings.
- I have never seen that historical results section, which is good enough of a citation to add a
Wfor Michigan. - PK-WIKI (talk) 19:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2025 - Add W to Michigan 2023
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- On the talk page, an editor agreed that the Wolfe national title should be added to 2023 Michigan. However, I cannot do so because I am new. My source is: https://wolferatings.com/descrip.htm BearDown12684 (talk) 00:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Done, thanks for finding that. PK-WIKI (talk) 06:07, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Is 'Anderson/Hester (Seattle Times)' still a "major selector"?
[edit]The Anderson & Hester math system is notable for picking Oregon this year rather than the CFP champion. But are they still actually a "major selector"?
In the 2023 NCAA records book table, page 115, A&H is listed as Active Seasons — First: 1997 Last: 2022.
In the 2023 book, other active selectors such as the AP Poll, Coaches Poll, etc. are listed as Last: 2022 as well.
But in the 2024 NCAA records book table, page 114, A&H remains at Last: 2022 while the others are incremented to Last: 2023.
A&H is the only major selector to be left at 2022. But note that Richard Billingsley and Dunkel were left at Last: 2019 in a previous book. This is apparently the reason they have been left off our table for 2020–present. I thought I remembered reading a discussion about this, but can't find it now.
In the "Poll System History" section, the dedicated description says "Anderson and Hester (1997-present)". Dunkel continues to say "Dunkel System (1929-present)" despite the table cutting them off at 2019.
I'm unaware of any external limiting factor that would make the 2022 selection their final "major selection". Or of any issues for Billingsley/Dunkel for 2019+.
What should be done about the A&H selections for 2023 and 2024? PK-WIKI (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)